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Proposed Change to Manual of Style for Date Format[edit source]

In an effort to better support ease of readability, editing, and wiki navigation, it is suggested that pages which require dates to be added to their heading utilize the MM/DD/YY format (ex: 01/15/15), which is more commonly associated as the standard for date notation in the United States.

With this suggested format, when a user is perusing a list of similarly titled items (as seen on the Events page, for instance) they will be able to browse through an alphabetical list which has been automatically sub-categorized in chronological order. As an example, at the time of this post the Events page features the following pages categorized under F:

• Farming Fanatic (01/05/15)

• Farming Fanatic (23/02/15)

• Farming Fanatic (24/04/15)


If the referenced pages were titled with the proposed MM/DD/YY format, they would instead appear chronologically as follows:

• Farming Fanatic (02/23/15)

• Farming Fanatic (04/24/15)

• Farming Fanatic (05/01/15)


This format assists the reader in identifying where a given item is in relation to their own chronological point of reference; a task which becomes increasingly difficult as more similarly-titled items with different dates get added to a given list (see also: Dinnertime! on the Events page). - unsigned comment from FauxRealDoe (talk)

First things first: don't forget to sign yourself.
Secondly, there was already a voting on the old wiki regarding the use of date format and standard language and the users decided American English and dd/mm/yy format as victors.
Thirdly, no offence, but any Imperial system of measurement is utterly retarded. Fahrenheit, miles, m/d/y, feet, inches, lbs, you name it. It has no logic whatsoever, it is flawed and disorganised. A truly arbitrary retarded rollercoaster. A better chronological flow would be attained with the yy/mm/dd format instead. --Star Warden-- 08:00, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
I agree that it needs to be changed. The yy/mm/dd format makes more sense for the events in order to keep them chronologically organized on the events page. --Kimberly
I also vote for a change, with the number of event repeats there are and since we don't list them in any other way, changing the format to yy/mm/dd will help keep thing straight. At least with shorten dates. I'm fine with either March 3rd or 3rd March. I prefer March 3rd because that we vocally say it in the U.S. Vercanos (talk) 12:31, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
Exactly, USA. But this wiki is global. As I have told above, only three countries use mm/dd. But yeah, as I have suggested, yy/mm/dd is better for a more chronological flow. If we do decide for it, it should only be used for events, since it is there where this issue is present. It is not a very commonly used system so it is better if we use it only for chronological issues such as this one. --Star Warden-- 12:43, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
Just out of curiosity...You mean to say that when you are talking with someone about the date you would say something like, "Today is 11th August, 2015" instead of "Today is August 11th, 2015"? ~*Kimberly*~ (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
If you are referring to me, then yes, I first say the date then the month. I skip the year though. No need for that. And I also skip the month if I am talking about the current day or a day of the current month. But even if I were refering to a past date, I would say dd/mm/yyyyy. --Star Warden-- 14:02, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
Star Warden,
First: Thank you for the feedback regarding signatures. While I'm familiar enough with most web languages and a handful of associated APIs, I'm an utter novice at best practices for Wiki editing. So, as I'm getting by bearings here, I do appreciate constructive comments that will help me to acclimated to the environment.
Second: While I would certainly agree that most basic formatting and structural items remain the same from the previous Wiki (if it ain't broke, don't fix it), what better time than now to address issues which may have impeded a better user experience? Furthermore, just because people vote for something at one point doesn't mean that they made the right choice or that their choice is relevant to related issues in the present (see also: the Political Process in the United States).
Finally, and no offence, but in your third remark above I find the argument you make and the means by which you make it both rather contrived. First, "retarded" is widely regarded as an offensive term, especially to those who care for, are related to, and/or suffer from any given form of developmental disability. The word has no real place in polite casual conversion, much less on a Wiki talk page where people are discussing the chronological order of referential links. Second, just because you have beef with the Imperial system doesn't mean that certain situations (such as this) wouldn't benefit those involved with the adoption of one of it's standards. The Manual of Style even explicitly states "The standard language used is American English...", thus leading one to believe that proposing a basic functional derivative of the American English vernacular (such as the use of the mm/dd/yy format) shouldn't elicit some scathing assessment on how illogical, flawed, arbitrary, or disorganized the Imperial system is. Ultimately, and in this context especially, such an argument is entirely irrelevant and only serves to paint you in an unfavorable light. Given that you are (or at least appear to be) a regular site-wide contributor and administrator, this demeanor further effectively serves to push away new users (such as myself) who would otherwise hope to provide meaningful content and worthwhile contributions in a positive manner. Just some food for thought, but I'll leave the rest of you to it.--FauxRealDoe (talk) 14:56, 11 August 2015 (EDT)

Well, if it were for me, we would have been using British English, which is the one true English. I don't like AE and I am only using it on non-talk pages. I do apologise for the last part, but let's face it. It is a flawed system. Even the NASA and the military doesn't use it. d/m/y and y/m/d make sense. m/d/y not so much. Why would you put the month in the middle? In addition, please give a good reading to the Manual of Style since you are making suggestions about modifying it. When you refer to it, you should always link it by using the template that pertains to it: {{mos}}. While you are at it, please read the Code of Conduct too. And try and use the previewing option in order to see if your link is working or not. If it is red, it doesn't work, if it is blue, it does. In addition, check that the link is a direct link and not a redirect. --Star Warden-- 15:09, 11 August 2015 (EDT)

Did you misspeak? You asked, "Why would you put the month in the middle?" right after saying d/m/y and y/m/d make sense. --~*Kimberly*~--(talk) 15:56, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
Good eyes, Kim! Yes, sorry, I meant to say: why would you put the month the first? --Star Warden-- 16:02, 11 August 2015 (EDT)


To anyone reading this: the implemented change was switching from dd.mm.yy to yy.mm.dd. I apologise if, in my above remarks, I have offended anybody.--Star Warden-- 15:34, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

A new dragon style[edit source]

Can you please make a zebra dragon? U could use the body of the tiger dragon changing colors to black and white and the head and tails of the unicorn dragon. Without the horn of course and adding black and white stripes. Zebras are my favorite creature. Thank you, julie losey (tigerflower100@gmail.com) Tigerflower100 (talk) 15:31, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Julie,
Thank you for your request. However, please be aware that this website and we (the staff of the wiki) are not a part of Gameloft and have no part of the design and programming of the game. We are merely players of the game as are you. On the bright side, though, the staff at Gameloft are very open to suggestions and submissions. They regularly hold contests for players to create drawings of Dragons and submit their ideas as suggestions for future Dragons for the game. Take, for example, the Echo Dragon or the Bundt Dragon. They are both Dragons created by players and brought to life in the game by Gameloft! You can follow them on Facebook for the next contest or visit their forums and post your suggestion if you would like!

--~*Kimberly*~--(talk) 16:03, 16 November 2016 (UTC)